Added 2nd Portal: Messing around with Mesh

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    Gary Iden

    I wish I could help, but I'm new to Portal too.  I've asked several questions but don't seem to get much response.  One such question was in regard to best practice with creating a mesh network utilizing two Portals.  I've yet to get any response.  I'll be watching your post, maybe you will have better luck.  I hope so.  This is alot of $$$ to invest to get such little support.  So far I'm underwhelmed.  Good luck!

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    Paul S

    Hi Guys,

    I also have Fios and had to go into the Fios Gateway settings, turn off the WiFi that the gateway is broadcasting, change the Portal IP to Static, and change the port that Portal is plugged into from “Auto” to “Full Duplex”. Once I did that I started to see better performance from Portal.  The web GUI shows the the divices connected to the Mesh router as wired and if you want to get more info off of the Mesh router, turn off your wIfi, plug your computer directly into the 2nd router and log into the GUI.  Hope this helps.

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    David Tay

    Are you running your Portal in router or bridge/AP mode?  In my particular setup, I have FIOS as well but am using the RT-AC68U as the primary router and the Portal in bridge/AP mode.  I do have the Verizon G1100 Gateway/Router but currently have that configured as bridge mode for the STB (TV).  For now, I'm just using one Portal as I am waiting for the July firmware which adds a few added functionality, specifically:

    July, 2017

    1. EasyMesh 
    2. 802.11r
    3. Access point steering 
    4. Stability and bug fixes

    What I'm eagerly and anxiously waiting are the first three features, which I hope will significantly bring the Portal up to the same level of performance and stability for mesh and roaming between Portal units.

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    Paul S

    I have the portal set up as a router with a 2nd one as a mesh.  The Fios Gateway was left alone because it’s a pain in the ass to change the setting in the ONT and add all the port setting to work the guide, DVR, etc.  Were you able to get all of the Quantum services to work correctly with the Gateway acting as a bridge?  I also want to see the 802.11r with Access point steering but would really like is to add a 3rd Portal to the mesh.

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    Jmilani

    Thanks for the info. I'm still getting used to the mesh network concept and the quirks of the WebUI vs the apps...

    Gordon (at Portal) opened up a ticket for me and I was able to confirm that the mesh unit definitely makes a difference in signal strength of the 2GHz and 5 GHz networks. However, it does not appear to pass the guest network. 

    A bit more info: 

    • The two Portals are connected to each other via wireless mesh
    • Primary Portal (correct terminology?) is connected to my FIOS (actually FairPoint FAST) modem

    It looks like the planned July update will help with the mesh settings. Maybe it'll fix the guest network too?

     

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    David Tay

    @Paul S - Sorry for the late reply.

    My Verizon FIOS provided DVR is working fine with the FIOS Quantum G1100 Gateway running in bridge mode, although I only have basic local TV channels service (plus CNN and some other non premium channels).  I'm using option #4 - LAN-to-LAN in the DSLreports FAQ setup. (see http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15993) for my connections. No issues with getting the TV guide, widgets, etc. to show up on my TV in my STB.  Wi-Fi is disabled on the primary router (ASUS RT-AC68U) and the Portal is my primary AP/Wi-Fi (set up as bridge mode) for wireless.

    I would like to go back to using the Portal as the primary router and also a mesh (I have two Portals; the second one is sitting in a box, waiting for the July firmware update) but the lack of a full feature set is what is holding me back.

     

     

     

     

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    Steve Hazard

    Considering that a single Portal router will cover 3,000 sq. ft. unless there are obstacles that will block the signal and depending on placement, you may not see much of a difference with two Portals meshed.  I started with a single portal and there was hardly any difference in the front of the house to the middle of the house.  However, I do have an addition that is separated by metal studs and a concrete and stucco wall and adding the second Portal allowed the same speed in the addition as the rest of the house  So while the area of my house, slightly less than 2100 sq. feet, should have been serviced well by a single Portal the second once in mesh gave me the internet speed I am paying for in every room in my house.

    If it's working for you, I wouldn't worry to much about what is connecting to what as long the reason you purchased the product is working as expected.  Regarding the IOS software and the guest network, I always show a single connection when using the IOS app and the guest network, no issues with mine, but it is a guest network so what if you're showing its a little slower.  

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    Jmilani

    I agree with you on the router connections Steve, but the UI (app and Web) could be cleaned up to make it clearer. Right now it seems like the UI is trying to balance ease-of-use with advanced features and not quite hitting the mark on either.

    However, I  have to disagree with you on the guest network: There's no reason for the private network and the guest network to not be equally accessible (i.e. same signal strength) and if that functionality isn't shared between the meshed(?) units, that's an issue. I'm hoping it's something that can be addressed with the next patch, hopefully before my return window is closed.

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